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Beyond The Message: New Heaven & Earth

In the latest Beyond The Message, Online Campus Pastor Robert Murphy sits down to talk with Lead Pastor Mark Ashton about the final message from Future Shock. Topics discussed are:

  • What was one thing you learned in preparing to teach during the Future Shock series?
  • Why should someone want to go to Heaven when life here on Earth is good?
  • Why should someone hope for Heaven when they’ve experienced hurt and suffering?
  • Revelation 21 & 22, and symbolism with the city in new Heaven.
  • Recommended resources for further study.
  • Hope and prayer for CCC, going forward, now that the series is finished.

Beyond The Message: Millennium

Online Campus Pastor Robert Murphy sits down with Sarpy Campus Pastor Steve Walters to discuss the millennium. Steve preached on the millennium, at the Sarpy Campus, as part of the Future Shock message series. We wanted everyone to have a chance to hear about some of the main points from Steve’s message.

Questions we discuss are:
What is the millennium?
Why is it necessary?
What can I learn from it?
Why do I need to be aware of it?

Additional resources:
William Barclay commentary on Revelation
Things To Come by J. Dwight Pentecost

Beyond The Message: Hell

In this Beyond The Message, Robert Murphy sits down with Tim Perry to discuss a number of questions surrounding the topic of Hell. Some of the questions discussed are:

  • Why would God create someone if they would ultimately go to Hell?
  • Luke 16:19-31
  • Does a loving God send people to Hell even if they’ve never heard the Gospel?
  • Is Hell a literal place, and if so why is it necessary?
  • Does an eternal punishment fit the crime, especially if they lived a moral life?
  • Do we get a second chance if we were to go to Hell?
  • Rob Bell’s book “Love Wins”

Click here to find out more about the Gathering message series Hell.

Also, check out the message series 5 Minutes After… for more related resources.

Do I have Free Choice or Am I Elected?

What follows is a dialogue I’ve been in with a Gathering attender. This month we’ve been doing a series about Hell.

Hit this link if you’re curious about the interaction we’ve been having at our lunch venue:

Click here for mp3 audio of Gathering sessions on Hell

Next this Sunday we’ll be hosting Gathering favorite, Pastor Walt Hooker of Bellevue Christian Center as he addresses the topic of predestination and hell. If God predestines those he’ll save, does he also predestine those who will wind up in hell? A very troubling question. But a very dynamic and engaging speaker to tackle the topic. Come on out – CCC’s student center at 12:30. Lunch for $5 (free for High School and College Students).


Pastor Perry,

Thank you for taking time to answer my question. Your response has been helpful. This concept of predestination is a tough one to grasp. I will take the scriptures you have given me and continue my journey.

I will be out of town this week end, I look forward to being in your class again.

God bless your work,



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Tim Perry <> wrote:


Thanks for attending Gathering this week and for filling out a card! On the back of your card, you mentioned that you’re curious about predestination. “Do I have free choice or am I elected?”

Great question! We’re going to deal with that in week four of the series. I can give you a few thoughts now though. Here are a few basic facts that we have to start with:

1. God has made us as beings that have a meaningful sense of choice in all aspects of life. If that were not true, God would not hold us accountable for our choices. If he is going to someday judge us for the decisions we make, this basic responsibility of using our will must be taken seriously!

2. The words Election and Predestination ARE in the Bible. Paul teaches us that God does make choices about who and how he saves people long before we are even born!

3. The biblical idea of election is never meant to short-circuit human responsibility toward God (that would be nothing more than Christian fatalism).
Conclusion: YES, our choices are meaningful! It is an extremely serious thing to engage God’s offer of salvation with our God-given decision-making ability. Predestination in the end is a check on our pride. We’ll never be able to congratulate ourselves on picking God as if he had nothing to do with our choice. Without his initiative we are dead in sin.

The word “Free” in “Free-will” can be a bit problematic. Scripture gives us an answer to your question that is a little of both. Yes, we have a meaningful choice in responding to God AND yes, God does choose us in love. Somehow both are true at the same time.

Below are a few scriptures that reinforce that salvation is a work of God in a person’s life, but it is a work of God people are culpable for ignoring. Let me know if this has been helpful! Keep coming back to Gathering. Thanks for being there this week!



Romans 8:28-31 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. 31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

2 Peter 1:3-12 3 His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. 5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins. 10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 12 So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have.

Ephesians 1:11-14 11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession– to the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 2:1-10 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions– it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith– and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God– 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Beyond The Message: Doling out rewards, benefits and punishments

The second installment of Beyond The Message features Gavin Johnson and I talking about his recent Future Shock judgment. We discuss:

  • What are the types of judgment?
  • What happens after we die?
  • Do we really get rewards for our works?
  • God is good, even with judgment.

And more banter…

How long has Hell been around?

Interesting thought from one of our participants at Gathering during our current series on Hell. This person feels hell is plausible because the idea has been around a long while and is taught by other religions.

What are your thoughts about hell? Bring them with you and come out to Gathering this week. We will be trying to dealing full-on this time with the issue of predestination! Come hear guest speaker Walt Hooker, a Gathering favorite every time he comes.

Check out our Facebook Gathering Page as well for more thoughts. It’s shaping up to be one of our most interesting series. Come join in and bring your toughest questions.

Future Shock & Pop Culture

One of my first introductions to the concept of Judgment Day was from the film Ghostbusters. It’s a scene late in the film, where Ray and Winston are talking about God. The conversation veers into the concept of Judgment Day, and whether or not they are about to experience it. Even though Ray (Dan Aykroyd) gets the scripture reference wrong (it’s Revelation 6:12, not 7:12), it’s a fun scene. Well, a fun scene for those of us who are old enough to have seen it!

Obviously, for a better explanation of Judgment Day, be sure and follow the current Future Shock series.

Beyond The Message: Evil, Evil, And More Evil

Here we go! As I mentioned yesterday, Tim Perry and I sit down to talk some more about his recent message “Evil, Evil, and More Evil”. Some of things we discussed:

“How do I talk about this with my children?”
“How do I contend or endure when this evil comes?”
“How do I approach and/or study this topic?”
“What are some other biblical resources about this?”
And more…

New Project with “Beyond The Message”

One of the things I wanted to do when I launched the Online Campus was to have some informal conversations, and Q&A, with people about what’s going on at Christ Community Church. And when I mean informal, I mean informal. Informal as in propping up my iPhone on some paper, and an iPad case, to record two people conversing over various background noise.

Thus, the eloquently titled Beyond The Message.

I hope to do follow-up on recent messages, at CCC, with the pastors that delivered them. We’ll have some fun along the way as well.

The first time with Beyond the Message, I sit down with Tim Perry to talk more about his recent message “Evil, Evil and More Evil”. I’ll post the video here tomorrow.

Getting ready to record Tim and I discussing his recent Future Shock message.

Who Else Is Preparing For The End Of The World? Porn Companies.

I thought this past Sunday was a great start to Future Shock. For me, it was great to see months of preparation pay off with the series beginning. One of the things I had done for the series was to do research on various end of the world businesses, like Vivos (bunkers) and After The Rapture Pet Care (no explanation needed). Of course, it shouldn’t be surprising that porn companies are trying to cash in on these fears as well.

This week I was on Drudge Report and saw a link about a porn company building an underground bunker so it can be ready for the end of the world in 2012. I was curious about the story, but my first thought is, “What kind of website does this go to?” Checked the address, and it was to a CBS blog out of Los Angeles. Whew!*

*I say that partly to be above reproach, partly to acknowledge the reality many of us face who spend time online, and partly because of my story of being a former porn addict.

The bunker will be more a hedonistic den than a bunker. They aren’t truly preparing for the end of the world, but I found it funny and sad that this bunker is in the works. I’m sure we’ve heard people joke about partying when the end of the world comes. When Harold Camping gave his failed Judgment Day date in May, it became an excuse for many people to gather together and party. Next December, this porn company will make sure its porn business/lifestyle can continue if the end of the world happens in conjunction with the end of the Mayan calendar. And, those of us who have given ourselves over to sin, can be in the “safety” of the bunker for a price. The porn company will make a ton of money off of leveraging people’s fears and/or addictions.

What about you? We’ve all joked about the end of the world, and we know people who say they are looking forward to partying in Hell. When the world does end, it will not be a fun-filled time. Hell will not be a paradise for sinners. As Lead Pastor Mark said in the first Future Shock message, you need to be ready. Jesus is our coming King. The future implications are huge for the present.

When the world ends, make sure Jesus is Lord of your life. Don’t make sure you can still be a sinner.